GOD REFUTES THE TRINITY DOCTRINE

         Whatever one believes about the nature of God, one must know that the traditional Christian doctrine explaining Him never emerged until a full three centuries after the ministry of the Lord Jesus.

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         For thus says the LORD, who created the heavens (He is the God who formed the earth and made it, He established it and did not create it a waste place, but formed it to be inhabited), “I am the LORD, and there is none else. I have not spoken in secret, in some dark land; I did not say to the offspring of Jacob, ‘Seek Me in a waste place;’ I, the LORD, speak righteousness, declaring things that are upright.

         “Gather yourselves and come; draw near together, you fugitives of the nations; they have no knowledge, who carry about their wooden idol and pray to a god who cannot save. Declare and set forth your case; indeed, let them consult together. Who has announced this from of old? Who has long since declared it? Is it not I, the LORD?

         “And there is no other God besides Me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none except Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other. I have sworn by Myself, the word has gone forth from My mouth in righteousness and will not turn back, that to Me every knee will bow, every tongue will swear allegiance. They will say of Me, ‘Only in the LORD are righteousness and strength.’ Men will come to Him, and all who were angry at Him will be put to shame.” [Isaiah 45:18-24] [1] 

THE MISSING TRINITY DOCTRINE

         The Lord never spoke of any Trinity Doctrine. There is no mention of a Trinity Doctrine throughout the entirety of Old Testament Scripture or even within the many OT apocryphal works. There is no mention of a Trinity Doctrine in the New Testament either, or in any NT apocryphal works, such as the Book of Enoch, for example, which was quoted by New Covenant writers and which appears at least a tad New Agey. There is no mention of a Trinity Doctrine within the vast library of the Dead Sea Scrolls, which date to the first century BC and first century AD. The many Jewish sects of that time period, including the Pharisees, Sadducees, Herodians, Scribes, Essenes, and Zealots never mentioned a Trinity Doctrine. There is not even any mention of a Trinity Doctrine within the Jewish oral law in general—the Mishna, Talmud, etc. Monotheistic Muslims and Jews think the entire idea of God being composed of three persons is preposterous.

        But let’s put all that aside for now. Let’s say that when some second century AD Christian philosophers, theorists, and other interpreters began straying from the pure New Covenant writings and the powerful witness of the original believers and began attributing Roman, Greek, and Egyptian triad formulas to the Christian God that they were on the right track. Let’s say they thought they were acting in good faith in order to gain greater cerebral and intellectual understanding of the Christian God and that they attempted to make the New Covenant writings less confusing and more rational.

         Let’s also say that as the third century progressed and this idea was latched onto by a greater number of “church fathers” that they were really onto something deep and profound, and that they began finalizing a previously unknown great revelation, a revelation that was even unknown to such OT stalwarts as Adam, Abel, Seth, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Joshua, and David. And which also, incredibly, somehow remained unknown to all the powerfully anointed-by-the-Spirit-of-God OT prophets put together, including Elijah, Elisha, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and especially Isaiah, as quoted above. This proposed, seemingly previous great unknown revelation had also escaped the notice of the Lord’s close associate and forerunner, the powerfully anointed John the Immerser, who never mentioned it or even alluded to it.

         And let’s say these early “church fathers” of the second through fourth centuries AD were incredibly brilliant spiritually, so brilliant and receptive that they discovered and formulated something brand new (but was somehow there all along), though no one else had ever had the understanding or the “eyes to see” to see it. Such spiritually blind people who never saw it also included all the apostles, who were never aware of a Trinity Doctrine and never taught it. These included even the apostles Peter and Paul, the latter of whom wrote most of the New Covenant epistles by the inspiration of God and learned the Gospel through direct communication with God all alone out in the desert. He must have somehow missed that particular class. And let’s say when the final rendition of what we know at present as the classic Trinity Doctrine was finalized and authorized at the Council of Nicea in the year 325AD that they had come up with something that the Lord Jesus Himself either did not know about or never taught if He did know about it.

      It appears as though their great brilliance and spiritual knowledge had even superseded His. Wow. No wonder they also officially removed His Name from water baptism at that time.

         © 2018 by RJ Dawson. All Rights Reserved.


[1] Unless otherwise noted all Scriptures are taken from the New American Standard Bible, © 1960, 1963, 1968, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1977, 1995 by The Lockman Foundation. Used by permission.

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Posted on March 5, 2018, in Real Christianity and tagged , , , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 8 Comments.

  1. Hi RJ, you left a lot of unanswered questions with this post. One of the best summaries I found on this subject is at : https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/trinity/trinity-history.html
    What is lacking in this particular post is what you personally believe with respect to God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Obviously the development of the Doctrine of the Trinity is a highly complex subject that most current Christians are not conversant with. I note your objection to the Doctrine of the Trinity but what is your personal understanding on this subject? With respect – Bruce

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    • Thanks Bruce, but I left nothing out. This is an article. A post. I wrote something that has a beginning and an ending. I will have more on the subject in future posts. I have written on the subject often. I wrote two ten-part series on the subject, both of which can be accessed through header tabs on this site. These are by no means exhaustive but present a good outline and much more information.

      We don’t need to make any appeal to authority other than the Lord Jesus Himself and the Scriptures. His Word contains the answers we seek. He taught and wrote nothing to explain or defend the Trinity Doctrine. The New Covenant contains no Trinity Doctrine apologetics. The nature of God is obviously a deep subject, since we are all mere created beings trying to find our way and get right with Him, and that is not easy in a fallen world of sin and spiritual corruption. It is part of why the Lord said we must have spiritual eyes to see and ears to hear.

      Many Christians have written extensively on the subject of God’s nature. The history is there. It is not that hard to find. The classic Trinity Doctrine raises questions as it seemingly attempts to answer them. The people who formulated it had an agenda. It does not dovetail with Scripture as many otherwise think.

      As far as what I believe, I believe what the Lord Jesus teaches and what the Scriptures teach and reveal. I believe in ONE GOD, and I believe the Lord Jesus is that ONE GOD who became a Man to show us all the Way, teach us all the Truth, give us all His Life, and even be the perfect sacrifice for our sins to pay for it all and be our Savior, and to reconcile us all with Himself so we can all live forever with Him. His great love has no limitations and is unconditional but our response is certainly conditional.

      Remember Bruce, the terms you used, “God the Son” and “God the Holy Spirit” are not Scriptural. The term “God the Father” occurs many times in the New Covenant writings (13 in the NASV95), most of which are in Paul’s epistles but also in the epistles of Peter and John. It doesn’t occur in the Gospels or Acts. The term applies to God as our Father.

      The classic Trinity Doctrine is certainly a highly complex subject and is also referred to as mysterious and beyond the understanding of regular Christians. It is also easily refuted by Scripture. Trinitarian apologists will go to great lengths to defend it. I am not interested in arguments but I do appreciate a good dialogue and discussion.

      Regarding this particular post, there are several instances in the OT in which YHWH insists He is ONE GOD. I quoted one directly from Isaiah that obviously refers directly to the Lord Jesus, as YHWH mentions that He is the only Savior and that every knee will bow to Him and every tongue will confess Him. Paul quotes from this passage and applies it to the Lord Jesus in his epistle to the Philippians.

      There is no denying that God is Father, Son, and Spirit, but one must research the New Covenant writings to see if it’s possible that God can be these three without being three “persons,” a term which is semantically the same as saying three “selves” or even three “people.” There is much more in His teachings that reveal His real nature without resorting to a standardized “orthodox’ doctrine that He never taught.

      Real Christians have always been on different levels of spiritual comprehension, maturity, and discipleship, and understand to varying degrees the revelation of God’s real nature. The effort should never be made to standardize this and try to get everyone “on the same page” so to speak, which the Trinity Doctrine has attempted. This was part of its original agenda. The Lord never forced revelation because it is impossible. Some of His followers had a better understanding of who He was than others, but that did not mean all of them were not His followers. He always granted leeway for revelation and allowed His followers the time they needed to grow closer to Him without forcing beliefs upon them which they may have yet to understand. We know His original apostles were often clueless and didn’t get it, but continued to subject themselves to His authority and kept following Him anyway. We know the results of their faithfulness and eventual spiritual maturity, as the Lord worked through them to change the world for the better forever.

      It is the prophets and original apostles who compose the foundation of the spiritual house of which all real Christians are a part and of which the Lord Jesus is the Cornerstone. We must heed their words and teachings first and foremost rather than those of later “church fathers.”

      Thanks again for your comment and blessings to you.

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      • Likewise RJ and thank you!

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        • Yes, you put it very well..I remember years ago berating God about everything being all His fault! (I was having a down moment or two) but as I was ranting at Him, it struck me more forcefully just what Jesus had done, what God had provided by Jesus coming to earth and sacrificing Himself. It was like, well, even if everything WERE God’s fault, in a sense He has actually taken the ‘blame’ for everything…how can anyone accuse Him? Kind of like if one had a child and their toy has somehow got broken, they could say…well, it’s your fault, you didn’t make me put it away or teach me to take care of it or whatever…I didn’t even ask you to give it to me in the first place! And then the parent might say something like, well, I bought it for you, gave it to you because you were meant to enjoy it…but it’s all right, because I can either fix it or buy you another, at my expense. Just ask me.
          I know that’s not a particularly brilliant analogy, but I’m not good at explaining concepts…a lot of ‘God’ stuff is perceived or comprehended, but so difficult to put into actual words or explanations…apart from those very brilliant people who can be so good at explaining concepts understandably.
          Thank God that He made even the ‘simplest’ or uneducated people able to know and understand Him…even if our knowledge and relationship with Him is for the moment imperfect. Otherwise, there would be a great many of us, myself included, who would be without hope. And I find it so amazing how He knows just how to reach each individual in the right way for them. The perfect Father 🙂

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      • Thanks for your reply to Bruce…I thought for a moment from your post that you were thinking somewhat as Jehovah’s Witnesses think. But I see from your reply that you do believe that God is Father, Son and Spirit, unlike JWs.
        Yes, I can see that the concept of Trinity does bring up some difficulties….perhaps it overstates the nature of God. The best explanation that I’ve ever heard (which no doubt you also have heard of), is that if you think of H2O, that is all the same ‘essence’ but comes in three forms…liquid, ice and condensation/gas (not sure about the gas bit scientifically), which to me makes sense, it doesn’t take away from His being ‘One’.
        There is certainly the danger with the Trinity doctrine, that people can begin to think of God as being three separate beings/people.

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        • Thanks for the comment. This is a controversial subject, as it must be. Attempts to define the one God of all creation using the extremely limited spiritual understandings and puny brainpower of human beings is beyond ridiculous. Though the Lord has done His best to reveal Himself to us and even became one of us in that He is fully human, He is still God and we are still created beings, though made in His image. He certainly made it possible that we can relate to Him, but we would never be able to relate to Him or know Him on the truly relational level that we both desire without Him becoming a human being. We could never initiate the process and become like Him so He had to do it and He embraced it fully.

          The Scriptures clearly state that the Lord Jesus is “God with us,” that the Father dwelt in Him, that He is the Word of God and that the Word is God. Isaiah said He was the Everlasting Father and the Mighty God, but also “a Son” and the Prince of Peace. The Lord Jesus said He would raise Himself from the dead. There are many, many references to the Lord Jesus being YHWH, or God Himself, though in human form, which did not diminish Him as God.

          We must always be careful in trying to corner the market on the full identity of God and His nature, as if we could actually do that. We are talking about the One who created the universe after all, and much more importantly, each one of us.

          Though He has manifested Himself in three principle ways, it does not mean He is three separate persons. How else was He supposed to achieve the goal of revealing Himself to us relationally on a heart to heart basis and die for our sins? How else could He bless us with His Holy Spirit without first passing through humanity sinlessly and thus defeating death, hell, and the grave? We can receive His indwelling Spirit for the closest of relationships with Him. He has made all this possible for whosoever will.

          Thank you again for reading and blessings to you.

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  2. Richard Belovich

    Thank you for this posting, Mr Dawson. It is refreshing. The revelation of Lord (Father) Jesus (Son) Christ (Spirit) as all the fullness of God forever changed my relationship with Jesus Christ. I have never viewed the Word the same since. May the Lord continue to pour revelation knowledge on you and through you.
    Blessings, Richard

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